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« on: May 01, 2009, 09:08:38 AM » |
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Bike/run specialist who's taken up triathlon in the past two years. I grew up in the SW desert, so swimming was something we did in the summer. Been swimming for 2 1/2 years with a masters group, trying to improve so I don't look like I need to be brought in on swim leg. Good news is that I swim better than I did 18 months ago. The bad news is tumble turns (or flip turns as we call them in the States) are killing me; it's the rush of water up into my sinuses that causes me to panic. I felt like I was improving until I got to the point of tumble turning; now it seems like two steps backward.
My possible solutions include:
Wear a nose-clip in training to keep water out of sinuses
Swim more open water and don't worry about flip turns
Don't worry about flip turns; there's no walls in triathlon
I'm certain Doc has a viewpoint - but perhaps the rest of you guys could clue me in.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 11:44:24 AM » |
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Done properly you shouldn't get water up your nose - the trick is to blow out through your nose as you go over. If air is going out it impossible for water to go in! I have a great french nose thanks to my heritage, and if I can do it with no water up the sinuses you should too!  Give it a try... |
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 01:26:43 PM » |
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ohhh, I know how you feel.
It is worth the effort, and as Doc said to me when I was learning,
just think of it as part of your aerobic training.
That's referring to my sucking air for survival off of each wall as I saw Preston's feet disappear in a fury of bubbles.
There are no walls in triathlon, true.
But with flip turns you have access to faster feet to chase in the pool.
That can be the most motivating factor to improve.
I also found using the pull buoy and band helpful to teach to the feet to initiate the flip, along with the press,
and not rely on the arms "rolling up the windows".
keep at it, you'll get it!
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2009, 06:24:57 AM » |
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speaking of flip turns...Rowel started doing his tumble, good sign that he's comfortable in water and he loves it! |
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2009, 08:07:36 AM » |
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As an added side effect, if you do flip turns at the rate of 100 or more during the course of a workout, you will never again need to work your abs. Flip turns alone give you a serious washboard.
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StephenBayliss
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2009, 11:16:04 AM » |
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Excellent to hear that Rowell is doing tumble turns, he is on the up and the over and around  Hi Javaman, I was thinking you could wear a nose clip, why not? If it helps. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2009, 08:04:25 AM » |
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Stephen - thanks to you and everyone else for the advice (congrats to you and Bella! - saw you both in the chute at IM FL last November). I think I'll try the nose clip - at least to develop the confidence to tumble without panic. Once I can get an entire workout in of tumbling, then I'll try to wean off.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 08:56:34 AM » |
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all been said except one drill after training , spend 10 min just doing foreward rolls in the water with feet tucked hands around your shins then move it to swim 3 strokes then foreward rioll then swim again , once you can do this with out fear , and blow the air out of your nose when you do it you will be fine |
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javaman
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 07:24:52 AM » |
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Thank you, Doc!
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