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Emma E
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« on: July 04, 2009, 12:44:42 PM »

Hi Bella,

I began reading about you before IM South Africa and quickly got up to speed with what you've been up to. Very impressive! I was heading to SA to support my friend who was doing IM for the first time. Sadly it wasn't to be; he hyperventilated on the swim and couldn't get going. His race ended after the first lap.

We were all devastated for him but him being the true athlete he is he opted for staying and cheering on the rest. We shouted for you and Stephen for the next 7 hours on bike and run. I know you had problems on the run and I was gutted for you; Stephen did really well, the heat was unbelievable.

We sat on the wall outside that hotel by the finish for hours cheering people on and I made a promise to myself I would do it one day. On returning I signed up for the Timex Women Only Sprint at Dorney Lake and set about training for my first triathlon. I couldn't even swim crawl in April!

I finished my Sprint(!) 400/20/5 in 1.15 and I am chuffed to bits! My friend has already signed me up for IM South Africa next year; he has some demons to exorcise. My question to you is; can it be done? Can I get fit enough (I am prepared to put in the effort) in 9/10 months from whre I am now? I currently train 14 hours a week. Or should I plan for later next year and do some 70.3 beforehand? I know there is a massive gap to bridge from where I am to where I need to be but I am really up for it! As someone who knows what they are doing, I'd be glad of some advice!

I'll see you in Bolton at the beginning of August. I hope you both do the double.


Good luck with the rest of the season -  I hope you get your wish in Kona,

Best wishes

Emma
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 07:15:33 AM »

Hi Emma

I know you've asked Bella's advice - but thought I'd just chip in as I've been exactly where you have! And not so long ago! I did 0-Ironman in 11 months exactly to the day. I had to learn how to ride a bike to do it, but could already swim. It was really really really hard work..... Maybe because the bike is the longest part, and that's where I had the least experience.

By the last 2-3 months I was putting in 16-18 hours a week training, with some serious miles. I made it! And it hasn't put me off!

I would definately say you should do a 70.3 in advance, to let you know where you are, and to let you know how your training is truly going. The clock won't lie, and the distance will be accurate. As a rule of thumb that I used - if you can do a half in around 7 hours you should make an Ironman well within cut offs.

Good luck! Hope you make it! Crossing the line for the first time is a memorable moment indeed.

Amanda
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 12:37:49 AM »

Amanda,

Thanks so much for your comments. If you could bear to help a little more...?!

What did your training look like at its peak (I run a company and can be flexible with my time to a certain extent) e.g. how many long runs in the week, long bike sessions etc?
I currently do a few classes at the gym in my trainng- spin, body pump and circuits. Could the pump and circuits be counter productive in anyway? Most people I read about just seem to swim bike and run?
Swimming is my weakest area - I can do the 3.8k distance no problem but its currently taking me 1.40 in the pool! Any tips to get quicker? I would die if I missed the cut off!
I watched IM SA beginning to end - I saw very few women with a chest and I am a 34E. Is this going to be a major problem or can I kiss them goodbye?!
Finally, and this is my biggest fear, how the heck can anyone run 26 miles without an ipod?!

I don't know any woman that has ever done this so if you had time to answer my q's I'd be really grateful.

Thanks

Emma
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 06:39:24 AM »

Hey Emma

I think IM training can be a little individual, what works for some in terms of volume and intensity may not work for others. Most important is getting a decent number of hours sleep at night - this is when your body repairs itself, and where injury risks can be reduced, and adjusting your diet. Train more, eat more.

The other thing is not to launch suddenly into 18 hours a week of training thinking it'll help - it won't! You'll more than likely end up exhausted and injured.

One of the best things I did was to join a local road cycling club. With them I do a long ride of 4-5 hours every weekend. The routes always vary so it doesn't get mundane, there's safety in numbers, it can help with motivation - you'll do the miles because everyone else is! I got lots of tips etc from people that had been riding for years. Other than this I was, well still am, doing rides of approx 2 hours during the week, plus brick sessions of a ride follwed by a 30 min or so run.
You could also consider a running club. I found the local tri club wasn't very helpful as it was geared purely to distances sprint to Olympic. But road cycling clubs and running clubs have much more scope for getting the serious miles in within a group environment.

Spin classes - it depends if the instructor is a cyclist or a taught spin instructor. I have tried both, and in my experience, unless their cyclists the workouts bare very little resemblence to what takes place on the road, amd what you need to be able to do. The positions they ask you to 'hold' on the spin bikes are also pretty unhelpful. Personally I believe 'bike is best'. You won't be on a spin bike on the day, so why waste time training on one? I have a turbo trainer for when the weather is really bad, or I only have an hour to spare and need a time efficient way to train. Spin classes are also really short. You'll be on the bike for a number of hours (maybe 6-7) on the day, and all the muscles in your body need time to adjust to the position they'll be expected to hold on your bike.

Body pump/circuits - again, I wouldn't waste precious training time! That's about 2-3 hours swim or running time down the drain! Plus those classes are only an hour or so at a time. You'll need way more stamina than that on the day!

For the first timer I think taking time to do the mileage, and building it up gradually in a sensible way, is the key. Take care of the minutes and the miles to take care of themselves.

I entered various road running races before the day, and didn't use an MP3 on any of them. And of course triathlons you can't either. That way I got in the mindset of only wearing one during training (I never use one on the bike at any time, training or racing, I consider it to be too dangerous). But really it's a non negotiable factor, you can't have one, so why worry about it! Everyone is in exactly the same position. You'd also lose all the atmosphere of the day if you were shut off in your own MP3 world. And for us age groupers that's one of the reasons for doing it. But if your worried about not being able to survive without one, then the only way to get over that is to train without one, that way on the day it's normal.

Bottom line is - you need to swim, bike and run. To complete this distance, from nothing, in less than a year, they are the only things you need to think about doing.

All this is only my humble opinion, but it got me around. I totally acknowledge there are many ways to do the deed! And Bella along with everyone else on here is far superior when it comes to giving out advice in triathlon! Smiley

Amanda
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2009, 07:05:12 PM »

hi Emma!

Sorry for the slow reply to your message, I have not had a lot of internet access the last 10 days, but am catching up now.
It was great to read about your motivation and determination to do Ironman South Africa next year!
Well done on your first triathlon last weekend at Dorney Lake!  You have come a long way in a short time!

I have read throo this thread and Amanda has given you some good advice. 

I think it is possible to do ironman South Africa next year. 
If you put your mind to something, it is amazing what you can do. 
I do think it is huge goal, so you best be prepared to work very hard at this goal every day till then!  You need to practice getting the miles in.  But at the same time, look after yourself, try not to run your self into the ground, since you work full time too.

It would definately be a good idea to do a couple of half ironman races before South Africa to get an idea what it is all like.

All the best and keep in touch!
Bella

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 02:36:59 PM »

Bella and Amanda,

Thank you so much for your advice and insight. No more spin or pump for me! I noticed no one commented on my chest issue; just going to have to see how that goes!

I did a BlueSeventy Open water swim today at Dorney Lake (again!) and saw another Bayliss in action; he must be a brother? Suffice to say he did really well and came in 4th in the 3km swim. Is he married? I'm wondering if I could be a better swimmer if I had that surname?!

I did the 1km; 17mins and no drowning. Actually quite enjoyed it and now I have a benchmark. I have decided I'm definitely doing IM SA next year so everything from here counts towards that. I met a guy at a party tonight who did Austria and spoke about just how amazing it was to watch an athlete like Bella.  Which other sport lets amateurs and pros mix like this?

Given I think the forum and blogs will be a source of info and comfort for the next 10 months I just need to get a couple of questions straight in my mind:

1. Is "Doc" Brett Sutton the big daddy coach man?
2. Is the "Boss" Brett (again) or Alex, the team manager?

Thank you ladies, you have already helped more than you know!

Emma x
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 08:01:54 PM »

Hi Emma!

well done with your 1km swim!  Good effort.  Keep up your training.  Doing little races like that are great practice and training session for you.

To answer your questions,

Ok, first question, ..just strap them down!  wear 2 good sports bras if that helps.  With all your training over time, they may go down in size a bit!

Yes, Stephen's brother is Mark!  And Mark was swimming there at Dorney Lake!

all the best with your continued training!
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 09:34:03 PM »

 Cheesy hahaha  That's my brother.  So he only came 4th!  He needs to do some more training.  He is a much better swimmer than me when he is fit!

Actually much better on the bike too, if he did some training  Wink

I think I have had him on the the run since I was 14  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 01:21:21 AM »

Hi guys,

In fairness to brother Bayliss he was beaten by Maarten Van Der Weljden the Olympic 10km champion. No shame in finishing behind him! The guy that was 3rd works in my local tri shop though. Drafted the whole way! Your brother swam 3k all by himself.

Good luck with your IM UK prep!

Best wishes

Emma 
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 04:30:14 AM »

My brother would have drafted if he could have too  Grin Wink
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