Trainer - big gear stuff

[francoismodave]

I'm still trying to find a trainer that I can use for big gear work, without having the wheel slip
all the time (which is really annoying), and is relatively sturdy. If it's cheap and quiet, with an
easily modified resistance, that's perfect. Suggestion?

[Matthieu O’Halloran - "M@"]

Hey francoismodave!
I have been using:  http://www.minourausa.com/english/trainer-e/tire-e/b60-e.html

Its cheap, quiet enuff and I have abused of it a whole lot in past few years.

Regards to your wheel slipping.
What type of tire pressure do you put in?
Because I have seen that happen when people put 100+ PSI on their back wheel to ride the trainer.

I ride around 60-70 PSI for extra traction and more resistance.
As well to wearing the tire more evenly and making it a smoother ride.

[adal]

I'm still trying to find a trainer that I can use for big gear work, without having the wheel slip
all the time (which is really annoying), and is relatively sturdy. If it's cheap and quiet, with an
easily modified resistance, that's perfect. Suggestion?

The tacx sirius is perfect, but not for cervelos. Its cheap and has plenty of resistance at 50rpm. Unfortunately the nut for the skewer is so big and the clearance to the RD for cervelos so low, that I can't use it with my cervelos. I tried a longer axle and washers, but bent the skewer.

So my current solution (although not approved here, because it involves my road bike ;-) ):

1. Strength with low RPM on my old road bike (Trek) on the Tacx Sirius
2. Time Trial on a super magneto pro (cycle ops) on my Cervelo P2

Spinning bikes are nice, but take up too much space ...

[adal]

Hey francoismodave!
I have been using:  http://www.minourausa.com/english/trainer-e/tire-e/b60-e.html

Its cheap, quiet enuff and I have abused of it a whole lot in past few years.

Regards to your wheel slipping.
What type of tire pressure do you put in?
Because I have seen that happen when people put 100+ PSI on their back wheel to ride the trainer.

I ride around 60-70 PSI for extra traction and more resistance.
As well to wearing the tire more evenly and making it a smoother ride.

How does that work? That trainer produces only 200 Watts resistance at 53x12 and 45 RPM (53x12 @ 45 RPM is about 25 kmh) ? It is the same problem with my cycle ops super magneto, at 45 RPM the speed is too low, to get enough resistance.

Do you use the brakes as well or does deflating the tire cause that much more resistance?

[pantani]

Hi Francois I like the CycleOps Fluid2 which is relatively quiet, and is sturdy. Not had tyre slippage issues, and it has a nice road feel. Has enough resistance for me in big gear sessions, but I've seen your legs (!) so you may need an elastic band on the brake leaver to hold the brake on for shorter big gear efforts. I haven't tried one of those trainer tyres but maybe they might slip less.

[francoismodave]

Hmmm...200w at 50rpm and 53x12, not sure that's going to cut it. I can push a fair bit more (yes, Robbie, the PM is off the bike
and sold!)...
I'll look at the cycleops and tacx option. We actually have a trainer, but since my fiancee rides it too since she just had the weird
idea of biking, swimming, running too, we need another one. Hers is actually an old minoura.

[Matthieu O’Halloran - "M@"]

Hey francoismodave!
I have been using:  http://www.minourausa.com/english/trainer-e/tire-e/b60-e.html

Its cheap, quiet enuff and I have abused of it a whole lot in past few years.

Regards to your wheel slipping.
What type of tire pressure do you put in?
Because I have seen that happen when people put 100+ PSI on their back wheel to ride the trainer.

I ride around 60-70 PSI for extra traction and more resistance.
As well to wearing the tire more evenly and making it a smoother ride.

How does that work? That trainer produces only 200 Watts resistance at 53x12 and 45 RPM (53x12 @ 45 RPM is about 25 kmh) ? It is the same problem with my cycle ops super magneto, at 45 RPM the speed is too low, to get enough resistance.

Do you use the brakes as well or does deflating the tire cause that much more resistance?

Hey adal im not sure about the numbers - but im definitively pushing more watts than that.
I dont press the brake.
Deflating the tire gives me enuff resistance.
As well to give a good 'kung fu grip' on the twisty nob

45 RPM is pretty low - in some cases will give some un-wanted pain.
As well to hindering a proper rythym for extended and rigorous efforts.

Low RPM is a strait path to build strength - but lower is not necessarily better.

[Brandon Marsh - "-Tex"]

Try the Kurt Kinetic Road Machine or something like that.  Not the trainer road one, the more 'normal' one.  They give pretty good resistance.

[Fegan]

Weirdos - put on a rain coat, find a hill and select a gear..

I'm jealous of people that can sit on a trainer - its pure mind rot to me. But if there's snow or icy rain then it almost appeals.

[jozz]

I've been using rollers for the past 2 yrs.... Mainly because I blew up the cheap trainer I bought when I first started triathlon... My friend had the rollers ended up wrecking many many times and bought a trainer for safety. Should I switch back to a trainer? I have a giant trainer sitting in my corner, unused I got for $5 at a garage sell, and it has the switch to increase resistance(3levels of resistance). Strength and being able to recover after the swim or a hard effort on the bike is a weakness I have to fix...

[francoismodave]

It never rains where I live. It was 106F for my long run yesterday. Between the treadmill and 106F, you end up picking the 'dreadmill'...far less
daunting than your brain cooking in your skull ;-)
Same with uphill rides...Besides, there is this work thing that get in the way of my training, so sometimes, the trainer is the only option.

[doc]

turbo is the best  bike tool
dredmill  is the best running tool
paddles pull bouy the best swim tool
now go to it , with confidence

[Fegan]

I just need an endless pool then i could never leave the garage 

[doc]

most excellent combination

[pb]

I just need an endless pool then i could never leave the garage 

fegan  you are an ..... garageman