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NiLiDy
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2008, 10:57:06 PM »

- if your above 84 cadence , your effecting your run ,
if the bike is over 3 hrs , pretty bloody simple to me
the hr is too high
to then hold it for a 3 hr for girls and a 2h40 for men .
now am i going to trot out tests ,
answer no
just results -

Hi Doc!  just wondering,  if over 84 affects your run, then is there a cadence that is low enough that it will affect the performance as well?  Is it the same when doing hills, i mean  do you keep the same cadence on the flats and the hills? 

thanks so much

hope to see you all soon in Subic
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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2008, 11:53:12 PM »

yes .
it effects your bike ride
the lower the cadence , the more leg strength is used , so if you dont train for it , it will slow you right down.
the lower cadence the lower the hr .
we , have athletes who use 90 , we have some around 84 some at 80 and some at 76
its individual
up hills
grinding up , is not  good ,
but nearly impossible to hold the same cadence , between 5 and 10 lower than normal
is very , capable of being done .
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2008, 02:04:53 AM »

I think the most interesting thing about Larsen is the run/swim training doc has him doing, not the cranks! He mentioned on a competitor radio interview that doc had him doing only 3 runs per week, but very specific, leading up to his early 70.3 race. I was kinda shocked by that, as I had just assumed most of the pros were doing a lot more running. You can't argue with the results Larsen is having, and doc you're right: I'll bet a lot of people are glad he didn't find you 6 years ago.
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2008, 03:51:25 AM »

yu should be careful  believing in what you hear.
steve is not a runner , so running more , just
SLOWS HIM DOWN Wink
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2008, 12:23:38 PM »

I think the most interesting thing about Larsen is the run/swim training doc has him doing, not the cranks! He mentioned on a competitor radio interview that doc had him doing only 3 runs per week, but very specific, leading up to his early 70.3 race. I was kinda shocked by that, as I had just assumed most of the pros were doing a lot more running. You can't argue with the results Larsen is having, and doc you're right: I'll bet a lot of people are glad he didn't find you 6 years ago.


Hey, PowerCranks are not worth anything if they are not used at all and they would be worth even more if used as part of an excellent training program. Larsen chose to go with Doc's program because he trusted the program and liked the philosophy I presume. Doc prescribed Larsen's program for him without regard to whether he is or was on PowerCranks. Larsen has chosen to do the program prescribed using PowerCranks. This would only be possible if he had sufficient training time on them before he signed up with Doc such that they are just like ordinary cranks to him from an effort perspective. Larsen doesn't care what Doc prescribes as he would be able to do it on PC's. So, it would appear that Larsen sees benefit to using both "programs" in combination.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2008, 09:56:38 PM »

This is more annoying than teleshopping. Teleshopping you can turn off, but there is no escape from Frank Days strange cranks.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2008, 03:11:40 AM »

yes ,
i think the topic , has been fairly well aired from both sides of the debate , and so
we hope mr day , has had his say , and we leave it there .
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2008, 03:26:15 AM »

Doc, let's say that my optimum cadence for racing is, say, 80 rpm.

I do some power intervals (40-50 cadence on very big gear), but what about 30-60 minute time trial workouts, which I do at about 70-80 cadence? Should I be closer to 70, or closer to 80? (this is training only after all, not racing)

Also, on long bike rides (normally on the weekends), should I grind at 60-70 cadence (big gear to develop leg strength), or should I "train as I race" and pedal the optimum 80 cadence?

Thanks!
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2008, 12:24:39 PM »

train as yu race ,
with intervals to develop certain  things Wink
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« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2009, 10:30:08 PM »

A bound anatomy are usually talking about bound ligaments, a action that is artless by application the muscles.


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